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Ending Club after 10 year
After 10 years, we are now a small club of 8 members at this
time, lately it has been difficult. Some members in our
club have voice concern that others members have not been
pulling their weight in order to have a successful
partnership. If we end our partnership now we can walk away
with everyone getting what they are worth in the market now.
Some members would like to put everything on hold for six
months, keep the dues as planned towards the investments and
then revisit the idea of possibly ending or continuing after
six months. I am not sure if this is possible. Can you
provide us with some creative possibilities in lieu of
disbanding? Please help we meet this Saturday the 9th.
Thank you.

Nancy from MPIC (Melting Pot Investment Club)
Nancy Farfan wrote:
> After 10 years, we are now a small club of 8 members at this
> time, lately it has been difficult. Some members in our
> club have voice concern that others members have not been
> pulling their weight in order to have a successful
> partnership. If we end our partnership now we can walk away
> with everyone getting what they are worth in the market now.
> Some members would like to put everything on hold for six
> months, keep the dues as planned towards the investments and
> then revisit the idea of possibly ending or continuing after
> six months. I am not sure if this is possible. Can you
> provide us with some creative possibilities in lieu of
> disbanding? Please help we meet this Saturday the 9th.
> Thank you.
>
> Nancy from MPIC (Melting Pot Investment Club)
 Nancy:

You have presented several separate issues:

1. "Some members are not pulling their weight". My question
to the group would be, do those members agree with the
assessment and will the level of their participation change
in six months? If they agree with the assessment and are not
prepared to change, they should withdraw now regardless what
the others do.

2. I am not sure what you mean by the phrase "put on hold
for six months, but keep the dues as planned." Do you mean
partners would continue to put in new money each month, but
just let it sit there for six months? If so, I don't see the
point.

Or do you mean leave your investments as is, but not
contribute money or make changes in your investments for six
months while partners take a break from club activities? If
so, there is certainly no legal reason you could not do this
with an approving vote of your partners. My club takes a
two- month break in the summer. Some years, we put a
stop-loss order for some of our holdings. Other times, we
have had a member follow a stock and propose a sale because
of a change using email. (Our partnership agreement provides
a mechanism for voting via email.) We often joke that our
portfolio grows best during our break when we leave it
alone.

3. I don't know how many members you would have left if the
non-participating members left. However, I don't think it is
the number of partners (you only need two to have a legal
partnership) that is important, but how dedicated the
remaining partners are to contributing to the efforts of the
partnership.

4. What are the prospects of recruiting new members?

I hope these thoughts give you some ideas for the discussion
at your meeting.

Jack Ranby, Treasurer
Grants Partners Investment Club
Nancy, John has already given you great points to consider. This is more of a note of support in a time of club stress.

I am a founding member and past president, as well as past and current treasurer of our club. We started in 1967. During that time we have had only three treasurers. The treasurer always has the toughest position in the club. However, thanks to our switch over to Bivio, accounting has been much easier with account sync and the "cents ID," as well as all the other help.

We had a rough time a couple of years ago when our long-time treasurer passed away without training someone to do his tasks. For several months we suspended payments and took no actions except to transfer accounting to Bivio, sell losing stocks, and take care of the many withdrawals. (Our membership fell from 28 to 14 over a one-year period. Now it seems to have stabilized.)

Most of the remaining members dug in, revised our agreement, and became more active.The purpose of our club has always been to teach members how to invest. Yet, in all the time we have been organized, the most frustrating part has always been to get members involved in doing stock studies. We used to depend too much on the treasurer, but now have a stock study group of 5 that reviews stocks and makes recommendations to the club on stocks to buy and sell.

The average age of our members is now in the low 70s. We usually don't meet in January or February. (It's Minnesota--weather and "snowbirds.") I can attest to the fact that club members who have stayed with us have been able to make major purchases, take better vacations and retire with more security. Hang in there if you can.

Del Finch, Treasurer
MANTIC

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Nancy Farfan <pinklady@bivio.com> wrote:
After 10 years, we are now a small club of 8 members at this
time, lately it has been difficult. Some members in our
club have voice concern that others members have not been
pulling their weight in order to have a successful
partnership. If we end our partnership now we can walk away
with everyone getting what they are worth in the market now.
Some members would like to put everything on hold for six
months, keep the dues as planned towards the investments and
then revisit the idea of possibly ending or continuing after
six months. I am not sure if this is possible. Can you
provide us with some creative possibilities in lieu of
disbanding? Please help we meet this Saturday the 9th.
Thank you.

Nancy from MPIC (Melting Pot Investment Club)



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Del--in Tucson
Where the sun shines 350 days a year!

Wow Del, nice to hear from someone in Mantic. I haven't heard anything from your club in years. I had assumed it had closed.
You, of all people, can attest to the fact that clubs ebb and flow. We have good years and bad, and that goes for stock picks and the market as well as our member base.
Our Crow River Club made some big changes early this year. We are a much smaller and more nimble group, but we are certainly having more fun. Ellis Traub, author of Take Stock (the book and the computer program), once told me that it didn't matter how much money we had in the coffers after a mass exodus. The only thing that mattered was how well we invested whatever was left. And after 16 years of clubbing, I have found that to be so true.
Our clubs are meant to be an avenue for learning to invest, as a group. It allows us each to share our time and talents and insights for the betterment of all. That can happen with 3 members just as easily as it can with 23. I think that Nancy and her friends need to determine whether or not they wish to continue. Everything after that is just "details."
Weeding out the slackers is very easy. But let's save that for another day.
If you are in a club, and enjoy club dynamics, you should fight to keep your club alive. People will always come and go, and for all kinds of reasons. But standing pat and continuing to invest is the best way to fullfill your retirement.
Del, those of us left behind in Minnesota are freezing in this two-week sub-zero arctic blast! We are so envious of you in Arizona! Send some of that sunshine our way!
Lynn Ostrem
Crow River Investment Club

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Lynn Ostrem writes:
> Del, those of us left behind in Minnesota are freezing in this two-week
> sub-zero arctic blast! We are so envious of you in Arizona! Send some of
> that sunshine our way!

You'd think after all these years you'd actually enjoy the cold and
snow. :) I'm starting to turn into a true Boulderite: I rode my bike
all week to work. Those toe and hand warmers are helpful, but when it
gets below 10F, my hands get a bit on the chilly side. ;-)

Cheers,
Rob
Hey Rob,
When I was young and skinny (!), I rode a snowmobile, ice skated, and spent time at the local ski slopes. I traded all that in for a 40' motorhome with surround sound, a remote control awning and a margarita blender! <G> Winter isn't as much fun if you don't partake in seasonal sports. Just send me to Yuma. It's a stone's throw away from the border where I can buy cheap tequila!
Lynn O.
FROZEN in Minnepolis


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Rob Nagler <nagler@bivio.biz> wrote:
Lynn Ostrem writes:
> Del, those of us left behind in Minnesota are freezing in this two-week
> sub-zero arctic blast! We are so envious of you in Arizona! Send some of
> that sunshine our way!

You'd think after all these years you'd actually enjoy the cold and
snow. :) I'm starting to turn into a true Boulderite: I rode my bike
all week to work. Those toe and hand warmers are helpful, but when it
gets below 10F, my hands get a bit on the chilly side. ;-)

Cheers,
Rob



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Lynn Ostrem
Resource Management Group, Inc.
4439 McAllister Av NE
St.Michael, MN 55376
Office: 763/497-5153
Fax: 763/497-5838
Cell: 612/750-4943
garbagecop@gmail.com

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