Charging expenses without affecting unit values
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Charging expenses without affecting unit values We have 9 members in our club, and split the $99 Bivio subscription (11 $/ea). I paid for it personally, then took up a collection of 11$/person at the last meeting. When I entered a $99 expense, Bivio subtracted $99 from our cash. I remember doing this last year, and somehow, I was able to enter it without affecting the cash balance, but was still able to get the tax benefit of the expense. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Heath Dear Heath, You may have used a method where you were reimbursed for paying the expense with units. In that case, no actual cash is exchanged. To do this, you would record the expense as having been paid from a separate "suspense" account in bivio. This removes the amount from your club assets and allocates the expense to your members but doesn't affect the cash balance in your brokerage account. Then you would record a payment into that same suspense account for yourself. It would be for the amount you were being reimbursed. Instead of receiving cash, you are receiving additional units. Laurie Frederiksen bivio Inc. Hi Heath,
As an alternative to Laurie's suggestion, since you have already reduced
cash by the amount of the expense, you could enter payments from each of your
nine members of $11 each. This will bring back your cash to where it was and
record both the expense and the payments made.
Rip West
Saint Paul, MN Hi Heath,
Just to expand on what Rip is saying. In order for you to receive the reimbursement for the expense, the payments will have to be recorded for you, not for the people who paid them.
Laurie
From: club_cafe@bivio.com
[mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Rip West Hi Heath,
As an alternative to Laurie's suggestion, since you have already reduced cash by the amount of the expense, you could enter payments from each of your nine members of $11 each. This will bring back your cash to where it was and record both the expense and the payments made.
Rip West
Heath, For clarification, did you deposit the reimbursement you received from your members? Laurie Hi Heath, Rip and I were coming at your issue with two different interpretations of what you were up against. It is best if you use his suggestion to record the contributions of your members as member payments for each person. Make sure you do not record them as "fees". In general however, it is important for all clubs to recognize that if you have enough cash in your club accounts to cover an expense, it is not necessary to collect a special assessment to cover it. If you do, make sure to record the money you collect as member payments so that each person gets the proper credit for their contribution. If anyone is interested in learning more about Investment Club Expenses, we are running two webinars next week where we will be discussing that topic. One will be on Sunday August 23 at 7:30PM EDT and the other will be on Wednesday Aug 26 at 1PM EDT. You can register to attend at www.bivio.com/club_cafe They're free and we'd love to have you join us. Rip, myself, Dave Swierenga, Candace Baker and Jim Thomas will be available on one or both of the days and we'd be glad to answer your questions in person. Laurie Frederiksen bivio Inc. Laurie Frederiksen wrote: > Heath, > > For clarification, did you deposit the reimbursement you received from your members? > > Laurie Laurie, No, I took a cash/check collection at the meeting for myself. I still have it in an envelope, and haven't deposited it yet. In other words, it is still reversible. Thanks, Heath Laurie Frederiksen wrote: > Hi Heath, > > Rip and I were coming at your issue with two different interpretations of what you were up against. > It is best if you use his suggestion to record the contributions of your members as member payments > for each person. Make sure you do not record them as "fees". > > In general however, it is important for all clubs to recognize that if you have enough cash in your > club accounts to cover an expense, it is not necessary to collect a special assessment to cover it. > If you do, make sure to record the money you collect as member payments so that each person gets > the proper credit for their contribution. > > If anyone is interested in learning more about Investment Club Expenses, we are running two > webinars next week where we will be discussing that topic. One will be on Sunday August 23 at > 7:30PM EDT and the other will be on Wednesday Aug 26 at 1PM EDT. > > You can register to attend at www.bivio.com/club_cafe > > They're free and we'd love to have you join us. Rip, myself, Dave Swierenga, Candace Baker and Jim > Thomas will be available on one or both of the days and we'd be glad to answer your questions in > person. > > Laurie Frederiksen > bivio Inc. Laurie/Rip, Thanks for all of the attention. I feel guilty that I haven't been on the cafe for a week to respond. Here is what I did; I entered an "expense" of (99), and for each member, I entered a fee of 11. You said not to enter it as a fee. How should I edit to correct my error? I do plan to register for Sundays webinar, I just need to check my schedule first. Thanks again, Heath Neely Hi Heath, Enter it as member payments rather than fees. Hope to see you Sunday! Laurie |
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