Managing investments - advice needed
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Managing investments - advice needed Hello all, My friends and family constantly ask me for investment advice and stock tips. The investments I have made for them have done allright. So they keep coming back for more =) I dont mind helping but I was looking for a way to manage all their investments easier. So I thought of an approach where I'd start an investment club and have them pool their money in. However, in the partnership papers it would state that only I would be allowed to make investment decisions regarding the clubs portfolio. So in effect I will have created a mutual fund of sorts where they can invest in. They are also ok with me drawing an annual fee for my assistance. My question to you all is - a) Is this legal ? I assume so since all my paperwork will clearly state my credentials and risks with investingi n general. b) How do I withdraw the annual fee ? For example if I have to sell shares to get the cash needed to take the fee, then should the taxes involved with that transaction be a burden of the investors ? How would it impact the club finances ? c) Are there any other things I havent considered with my poor mans "mutual fund" idea ? Thanks for your advice and feedback, Shawn Shawn, the thing you haven't considered with this idea is it is a very bad risk for the others. My son got into something like that with some friends who pooled money to give someone they trusted to invest for them, and they lost every bit! While I am sure your intentions are entirely honorable, it would be a far better idea to create a real investment club, where all of you can learn to analyze companies for purchase based on fundamental stock studies. Also, all of you should be involved in the decision making. And, I can't help but think you are flirting with SEC regulations to set it up where you make all the decisions, and especially if you are going to take an annual fee for doing this. There will always be some overhead with the club, but standard investment clubs prohibit compensation. Gene Rooks, Orlando > a) Is this legal ? No! Not if you don't have a Series 7 license and approval from the SEC. > I assume so since all my paperwork will clearly state my credentials... What credentials? See above. > c) Are there any other things I havent considered with my > poor mans "mutual fund" idea? Yes, the penalties and jail time you could get if you lose their money and they turn you in. And don't think this can't happen! Family and friends can turn on us faster than strangers when their noses get out of joint! The point is, Shawn, your heart is in the right place. If you are naturally good at choosing stocks, you should consider pursuing it as a career. It's certainly fun to share those ideas with others, especially when they pan out. But you really need to do it right. If this is for YOU...get your license. Be legal. If it's for THEM...teach a man to fish. Lynn Ostrem, Vice President and Education Chair Crow River Investment Club garbagecop@gmail.com www.bivio.com/crowriver One of the troubles is that you need to be sponsored by a registered broker(age) to even take the test. it is a closed shop when letting individuals get licensed. You could probably charge for teaching them what a good investment is, or taking care of the accounting end, if money is the core reason for doing this. If trust and honesty was a licensing requirement according to how your relatives feel, you would qualify. Unfortunately the govt doesn't deem that a priority. The alternative is turn them over to a mutual fund manager who will take a pct to lose their money. I once read where 95% of fund managers don't beat the S&P index on a regular basis. More than likely even less managers beat the avg. on an after tax basis. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Danny Matthews > From: garbagecop@gmail.com > To: club_cafe@bivio.com > > a) Is this legal ? > No! Not if you don't have a Series 7 license and approval from the SEC. > > > I assume so since all my paperwork will clearly state my credentials... > If this is for YOU...get your license. Be legal. If it's for THEM...teach > a man to fish. Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! |
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