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In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:31:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mackinac@bivio.com writes:
Thanks, Ira.

I have performed the calculation per the spreadsheet you
referenced.  Just a couple more questions.  Can you please
school me on what constitutes a long term capital gain,
short term capital gain and return of capital?

Also when stock is sold, is it on a LIFO basis or a FIFO
basis?  We had bought 100 shares in 3 different purchases
and sold 25 before the merger.  I have made the calculations
for all three purchases, but I'm not sure which set of
numbers to use.
Starting with the last question first, Unless you specify otherwise before the sale is made, you sell your oldest shares first. So you've already sold the first 25 shares you bought. You can eliminate them from the calculations.
 
Long-term capital gain is gain on shares you've owned for more than a year. Short-term capital gain is gain on shares you've owned for a year or less. If the value of Washington Mutual shares received is less than your cost basis in the Providian shares that were exchanged, any cash you received..up to the amount of the difference is return of capital. Jim Thomas has created a spreadsheet that will do all of the calculations for you. It can be found at www.nwlink.com/~jimt075/stockcashmerger.xls. It was created for the MBNA/Bank of America merger, but it should be obvious what values to change in order to use it for the Providian/Washington Mutual merger.
 
Ira Smilovitz 
Thanks, Ira! You've been a great help!

:D

IraS1@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:31:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> mackinac@bivio.com writes:
> Thanks,
> Ira.
>
> I have performed the calculation per the spreadsheet
> you
> referenced.  Just a couple more questions.  Can you
> please
> school me on what constitutes a long term capital gain,
> short
> term capital gain and return of capital?
>
> Also when stock is sold, is it
> on a LIFO basis or a FIFO
> basis?  We had bought 100 shares in 3
> different purchases
> and sold 25 before the merger.  I have made the
> calculations
> for all three purchases, but I'm not sure which set
> of
> numbers to use.
>
>
> Starting with the last question first, Unless you specify otherwise before
> the sale is made, you sell your oldest shares first. So you've already sold the
> first 25 shares you bought. You can eliminate them from the calculations.
>  
> Long-term capital gain is gain on shares you've owned for more than a year.
> Short-term capital gain is gain on shares you've owned for a year or less. If
> the value of Washington Mutual shares received is less than your cost basis in
> the Providian shares that were exchanged, any cash you received..up to the
> amount of the difference is return of capital. Jim Thomas has created a
> spreadsheet that will do all of the calculations for you. It can be found at www.nwlink.com/~jimt075/stockcashmerger.xls.
> It was created for the MBNA/Bank of America merger, but it should be
> obvious what values to change in order to use it for the
> Providian/Washington Mutual merger.
>  
> Ira Smilovitz