club_cafe: Re: Dividends
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club_cafe: Re: Dividends Increase or decrease (if expenses/losses are greater than income). Actually
the change doesn't necessarily equal the taxable portion reported on the K-1
forms because nondeductible expenses and returns of capital also affect the
tax basis. But the concept is the same.
You can see the change by running a member status report on 12/30/03 and
then on 12/31/03 if your club was in existence last year.
Ira Smilovitz
In a message dated 11/9/2004 11:56:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ted_metro@bivio.com writes:
So on 12/31 the "Total Paid" column on Bivio will just One last question, I apologize, but thank you for the excellent responses. So capital gains/losses would be treated similarly as dividends in regards to increasing or decreasing a tax basis?? IraS1@aol.com wrote: > Increase or decrease (if expenses/losses are greater than income). Actually > the change doesn't necessarily equal the taxable portion reported on the K-1 > forms because nondeductible expenses and returns of capital also affect the > tax basis. But the concept is the same. > > You can see the change by running a member status report on 12/30/03 and > then on 12/31/03 if your club was in existence last year. > > Ira Smilovitz > > In a message dated 11/9/2004 11:56:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, > ted_metro@bivio.com writes: > So on > 12/31 the "Total Paid" column on Bivio will just > increase for each member > relative to their proportionate > share of dividends received during the > calendar year? Which > means the increase would equal their taxable > portion > reported on their respective K-1 forms? > > Thanks for the quick > and informative reply!!! > > > IraS1@aol.com wrote: > > Yes, > dividends (and other income and expense) impact the cost basis of the > > > members in your club. However, the method for accounting for that change > is > > somewhat different from that used by mutual funds. > > > > > Within bivio, the cost basis adjustment is made on December 31 > after the > > tax allocations have been determined. Unlike a mutual fund, > where the dividends > > are actually paid out to the investors who then > have a choice of whether to > > reinvest the dividend or keep the cash, > investment club "dividends" are always > > reinvested. So, rather than > lowering the price per unit and purchasing more > > units and the new > (lower) price, bivio keeps the current unit value > > constant and > raises the cost per unit for each of the units you already own. The > > > net result is the same. > > > > Ira Smilovitz > > > > > In a message dated 11/9/2004 10:01:00 AM Eastern Standard > Time, > > ted_metro@bivio.com writes: > > Do > > > dividends impact the cost basis of the members in our > > club? It > seems > > that because dividends raise the value of > > > the share price, they would have > > to be paid out as > a > > distribution (like a mutual fund) in order to > impact > > cost > > basis. Then the share price > would have to be adjusted down > > to > > reflect the > payout of the dividends, even though most (if > > not all) > members > > would just reinvest those dividends in > more > > shares (adjusting their cost > > > basis). > > > > I guess it seems to me like a mutual fund. They > collect > > all > > these dividends throughout the year, > but until they pay them > > out > > (usually in December) > my cost basis doesn't change, but > > my fund's share > > > price is going up as the total value has > > gone up from > dividends. > > > > Can > > someone confirm or correct > me about how dividends may or > > may not impact our > > > cost basis information for members?? > > > > > > > > > |
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