Transfer Deceased's holdings to spouse
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Transfer Deceased's holdings to spouse A partner recently died. What is the best way to transfer the deceased's shares to her spouse, hopefully without curent tax implications? Thomas DeRiemer wrote: > A partner recently died. What is the best way to transfer > the deceased's shares to her spouse, hopefully without > curent tax implications? Answering the second part of your question is far easier than the first. There will be no current tax implications with respect to the transfer. However, there probably is no simple way to effect the transfer. First, the decedent's partnership interest properly passed to the decedent's estate upon her death. The decedent's husband cannot make additional contributions to the club while the estate "owns" the partnership interest. The terms of the decedent's will determine how, and to whom, to transfer the partnership interest. Second problem - valuation. When the estate takes "possession" of the partnership interest, it generally assumes a valuation as of the date of death of the decedent. Depending on the by-laws of the partnership, the executor of the estate could argue for a different (lower) valuation (for instance, if the club's by-laws impose a significant charge on liquidation, a delay on receipt of cash, or other restrictions). In any event, the tax basis of the successor partner (the husband if all goes according to plan) will be different from that of the decedent. I don't know how, if at all, the club deals with this within its accounting package. The club will also have an "interesting" time preparing its year end accounting as it will have to prepare some special K-1s: From January 1 to the date of death for the decedent (under her SSN), for the part year that the estate was the partner (date of death to earlier of distribution date or 12/31 - under the estate's EIN), and, if necessary, from the distribution date to 12/31 for the successor partner (husband?). I hope that someone more knowledgeable than me also chimes in with advice. While the executor of the estate should seek competent professional advice, I would recommend that the club may want to hire its own tax advisor to ensure that everything is handled correctly. Ira Smilovitz When one of our members passed away, we treated it as a full withdrawl according to our bylaws. The money was given to the estate of the deceased partner. His wife (also a partner) remained a member. Jay Gano Ira Smilovitz wrote: > Thomas DeRiemer wrote: > > A partner recently died. What is the best way to transfer > > the deceased's shares to her spouse, hopefully without > > curent tax implications? > > Answering the second part of your question is far easier > than the first. There will be no current tax implications > with respect to the transfer. > > However, there probably is no simple way to effect the > transfer. First, the decedent's partnership interest > properly passed to the decedent's estate upon her death. The > decedent's husband cannot make additional contributions to > the club while the estate "owns" the partnership interest. > The terms of the decedent's will determine how, and to whom, > to transfer the partnership interest. > > Second problem - valuation. When the estate takes > "possession" of the partnership interest, it generally > assumes a valuation as of the date of death of the decedent. > Depending on the by-laws of the partnership, the executor of > the estate could argue for a different (lower) valuation > (for instance, if the club's by-laws impose a significant > charge on liquidation, a delay on receipt of cash, or other > restrictions). > > In any event, the tax basis of the successor partner (the > husband if all goes according to plan) will be different > from that of the decedent. I don't know how, if at all, the > club deals with this within its accounting package. > > The club will also have an "interesting" time preparing its > year end accounting as it will have to prepare some special > K-1s: From January 1 to the date of death for the decedent > (under her SSN), for the part year that the estate was the > partner (date of death to earlier of distribution date or > 12/31 - under the estate's EIN), and, if necessary, from the > distribution date to 12/31 for the successor partner > (husband?). > > I hope that someone more knowledgeable than me also chimes > in with advice. While the executor of the estate should seek > competent professional advice, I would recommend that the > club may want to hire its own tax advisor to ensure that > everything is handled correctly. > > Ira Smilovitz Ira has done his usual excellent job of pointing
out the problems in connection with transferring club units from a deceased
member. He closes with.......
I hope that
someone more knowledgeable than me also chimes in with
advice.
In no way do I claim to be that person. <g> However,
I might be able to shed some light on how to effect the necessary transfers
within the framework of the bivio program. First, we have to deal with the
transfer of the units from the deceased to his estate. I am going to assume that
there is no reason to value the units at anything different from what the
partnership agreement dictates in case of death of a partner. Therefore, as of
the date of death, do a complete withdrawal of the partner's interest. If there
is a withdrawal fee to be assessed, apply that. Then, record the estate as a new
member, and have the estate 'buy' the units of the deceased. If there was a
withdrawal fee, assess a negative fee for the estate, and then have the estate
'buy' the units at the valuation price used in the withdrawal. Since there is no
cash involved in this transfer, you can use the suspense account to record both
the withdrawal and the subsequent purchase.
Ok, at this point, we have successfully transferred the
units from the deceased to the Estate, and the basis for the units in the hands
of the estate has been entered as the date of death value. The withdrawal report
will show that the deceased realized a gain on the withdrawal, but this can be
ignored, since no sale has taken place.
The next step will be to get the units transferred from
the estate to the spouse. If the probate court is involved, it will be necessary
to get permission to do this. You will have to work with the attorney handling
the estate to get this done. The faster this can be done, the better, because,
as Ira said, the estate will have to report dividends and expenses for the
period that it holds the units. When the time comes to make the transfer from
the estate to the spouse, you can use the same technique as before. Make a
complete withdrawal for the estate using the market value at the time of the
transfer, and have the spouse 'buy' the units at that value. Again, no income
taxes will be involved.
There may be other complications that I have not
envisioned here, so please come back with any questions, either to Club Cafe or
to trez_talk.
Disclaimer: the statements above are opinions of
the author and are not official statements from either bivio or the IRS. These
statements are not intended to replace professional tax or accounting advice.
When in doubt, follow the advice of your local tax advisor or accountant who is
familiar with your particular
circumstances. Rip West wrote: <snip> > The next step will be to get the units transferred from > the estate to the spouse. If the probate court is involved, it will be necessary > to get permission to do this. You will have to work with the attorney handling > the estate to get this done. The faster this can be done, the better, because, > as Ira said, the estate will have to report dividends and expenses for the > period that it holds the units. When the time comes to make the transfer from > the estate to the spouse, you can use the same technique as before. Make a > complete withdrawal for the estate using the market value at the time of the > transfer, and have the spouse 'buy' the units at that value. Again, no income > taxes will be involved. Rip, I'm not sure I agree with your proposed procedure for transfering the partnership units from the estate to the surviving spouse. The surviving spouse's tax basis in the transfered partnership units should be the same as the estate's basis, as of the date of death, plus/minus any adjustments to basis which occurred during the estate's ownership. Something more along the lines of replacing the estate's name and EIN with the new name and SSN of the surviving spouse seems more appropriate, but this would bring all the estate period income into the surviving spouse's K-1 as well. As I said, I didn't think it was easy. Ira Smilovitz Ira,
Something more along the
lines of replacing the estate's name and EIN with the new name and SSN of the
surviving spouse seems more appropriate, but this would bring all the estate
period income into the surviving spouse's K-1 as
well.
You would also have the problem that estate period income
should be added to the basis of the estate's position in the club. I think it
could be done in bivio, but you would need help from the technicians in
adjusting basis at the time of the transfer. Of course, if you can accomplish
the transfer from the estate to the spouse before any income is realized, it
would be easier.
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