Careful at the Post Office
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Careful at the Post Office Well, just a word of caution. I was leaving the post office and got to the door after mailing our club taxes, realized I just had a cash register receipt and not the green and white certified mail receipt. So I went back up to the counter and asked. She hadn't done that or the return receipt which were sitting there beside her. So she apologized and took care of it. But what if neither of us had realized it and there had been a problem. Sigh..... Kim Potter BI Brighton Model Club If you sent your taxes via certified mail (on thin paper that is green and white in color) that is as good as the "return receipt" (the thick paper stock that is green and perforated card that gets returned to you). When I sent in my club's tax extension I asked the counter person at USPS which is "better". She said if you have the certified you can follow the tracking online with the number on the receipt. She went on to say that the return receipt is only worthwhile if you don't have a computer or are not computer literate. Just passing along what she told me after I made the same type of inquiry. Kevin Gillogly A Treasurer for two clubs Because I am a glutton for punishment Well, just a word of caution. I was leaving the post office Kevin I filled those out and handed it all to the clerk, but she didn't process it. That's why I was walking out without the green and white certified mail receipt in my hand. She might have caught her error after I left, but I still wouldn't have the certified receipt for proof or tracking unless she decided to mail it to me. Probably the only reason I realized I was missing something was that I previously sent the extension form the same way and the green/white certified mail receipt has been sitting next to my computer all week waiting for me to scan it into my computer. Kim
On Thursday, March 10, 2022, 04:45:54 PM EST, Kevin Gillogly via bivio.com <user*9886100001@bivio.com> wrote:
If you sent your taxes via certified mail (on thin paper that is green and white in color) that is as good as the "return receipt" (the thick paper stock that is green and perforated card that gets returned to you). When I sent in my club's tax extension I asked the counter person at USPS which is "better". She said if you have the certified you can follow the tracking online with the number on the receipt. She went on to say that the return receipt is only worthwhile if you don't have a computer or are not computer literate. Just passing along what she told me after I made the same type of inquiry. Kevin Gillogly A Treasurer for two clubs Because I am a glutton for punishment Well, just a word of caution. I was leaving the post office For what it is worth - - - In three of the last five years, the tracking of our return ended with an entry that it was leaving the Salt Lake City Regional Distribution Center. Never got scanned in Ogden nor as delivered to IRS address. The tracking of this year's extension ended in an Ogden Distribution Center. No proof of delivery to IRS via electronic tracking, but the green post card came back with a faint date received stamp. In one of the five years, the green post card never came back. Luckily it was a year where the electronic record showed delivery. I choose to pay for certified mail to proof delivery to USPS and domestic return receipt card to prove receipt by IRS. Also print out electronic tracking. Never had to prove filing to IRS yet, but more ammo the better. Small price for insurance. Jack I've had to provide proof of filing to IRS several times over the past years. Each time I had filed on time. But they lost it, or something. Huge waste of time & hours of waiting on hold, etc. Each time they have accepted any proof I had to offer, even just a receipt for the custom postage amount on the big envelope of taxes, dated the day I mailed the taxes (which was not late). That time I had just mailed it first class. So all I had was a USPS receipt for whatever the first class postage for that big envelope was. But it was dated. The only way the IRS would accept that proof was via FAX, of all things. So if you need to deal with them, have a fax machine at the ready, on a different phone line so you can fax them while staying on the call. That's apparently the preferred way. But my fax machine wasn't hooked up at the time. Anyway, they accepted that legitimate proof, and all my problems went away. It did cost me something like 12 hours of failed calls, unanswered calls, and time actually on hold over several weeks though. Would have been half that if I was ready to send a fax that 1st time we talked. Since then, I always send the taxes certified mail, or at least buy proof of mailing. You def want to have some proof. Best, Dave Nathanson Treasurer, Hawaiian Shirt Society > On Mar 10, 2022, at 4:04 PM, John W Ranby Trustee PGM Cariboo Trust via bivio.com <user*15792700001@bivio.com> wrote: > > For what it is worth - - - > > In three of the last five years, the tracking of our return > ended with an entry that it was leaving the Salt Lake City > Regional Distribution Center. Never got scanned in Ogden nor > as delivered to IRS address. The tracking of this year's > extension ended in an Ogden Distribution Center. No proof of > delivery to IRS via electronic tracking, but the green post > card came back with a faint date received stamp. > > In one of the five years, the green post card never came > back. Luckily it was a year where the electronic record > showed delivery. > > I choose to pay for certified mail to proof delivery to USPS > and domestic return receipt card to prove receipt by IRS. > Also print out electronic tracking. Never had to prove > filing to IRS yet, but more ammo the better. Small price for > insurance. > Jack > Interesting facts: 1) On 02/28/2022, I mailed the extension via certified mail and electronic return receipt. It arrived on 03/09/2022. 2) On 03/07/2022, I mailed the tax return via certified mail and hardcopy return receipt. It arrived on 03/09/2022. I haven't received the hard copy receipt yet, but I tracked it online. Two different USPS offices but both in the Grand Rapids, MI area.
Carolyn Sturgis Yup! It happened to me as well last week. I did go back. Their excuse, they forgot to staple it with the receipt... sighhh! Alessandro On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:36 PM Kimberley A Potter via bivio.com <user*22890200001@bivio.com> wrote: Well, just a word of caution. I was leaving the post office The cash register receipt has a tracking number on it. I don't think you really need the green copy if you pay for electronic receipt at the time of mailing. I mailed ours on 3/8 and already have gotten an electronic receipt saying it was delivered 3/10. You then have to ask for an electronic receipt on the USPS app or website and give your name and email address. Our return was about 140 pages and cost $16.30 to mail it this way. Carol True, Hilltop Investment Club From: club_cafe@bivio.com [mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com Yup! It happened to me as well last week. I did go back. Their excuse, they forgot to staple it with the receipt... sighhh! Alessandro On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:36 PM Kimberley A Potter via bivio.com <user*22890200001@bivio.com> wrote:
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