We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
ira smilovitz on
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Lynne Hamrick on
Thanks, Ira. We have kept the percentage ownership among members equal. So, does that make it more doable?
We don't have many stock losers. When the topic came up at our meeting, members expressed the desire to spit each stock equally between members.
We aren't planning to disband quite yet, but would like to know what we would need to do if we want to go down this route.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Kevin Gillogly on
Lynne,
You might want to look at previous queries on disbanding by going to the search window in the upper right and type in "disbanding" that might help address your concerns and lay out a framework for distributed assets. I hope that helps.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Laurie Frederiksen on
Here are the instructions you should follow to disband correctly:
Distributing stocks to payout members is very complicated to get correct, especially when you are disbanding.
Trying to divide all shares up equally between all members would make it much much more complicated.
Make sure to ask questions to us at support@bivio.com before you give anyone anything. This is not something you can undo later if you decide you didn't do it right.
We're glad to review your plan and let you know if there is anything you haven't considered before you have issues.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
You might want to look at previous queries on disbanding by going to the search window in the upper right and type in "disbanding" that might help address your concerns and lay out a framework for distributed assets. I hope that helps.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Lisa Robertson on
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
Lisa Robertson
On 12/17/2020 5:23 AM Lynne Hamrick via bivio.com <user*28904900001@bivio.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ira. We have kept the percentage ownership among members equal. So, does that make it more doable?
We don't have many stock losers. When the topic came up at our meeting, members expressed the desire to spit each stock equally between members.
We aren't planning to disband quite yet, but would like to know what we would need to do if we want to go down this route.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Lynne Hamrick on
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Laurie Frederiksen on
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Lynne Hamrick on
Laurie,
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Laurie Frederiksen on
THere are the tax implications of transferring stock in a partial withdrawal:
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Bob Knights on
What are the ramifications of transferring stock before withdrawing in Bivio first?
I have made this error.
Bob knights
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
THere are the tax implications of transferring stock in a partial withdrawal:
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Laurie Frederiksen on
The ramifications are that if you find out that you didn't do what you should have done, you will have a mess to try to address after the fact.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Bob Knights on
Is there a fix?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The ramifications are that if you find out that you didn't do what you should have done, you will have a mess to try to address after the fact.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Bob Knights on
Is there a fix?
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The ramifications are that if you find out that you didn't do what you should have done, you will have a mess to try to address after the fact.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up. Members would like to divide each stock among the members. Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!
Lynne
Laurie Frederiksen on
It would depend on what type of problem you created.
Just email us at support@bivio.com with the details and we can discuss your issue and what might be needed to address it.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
If you are doing stock transfers for any withdrawals, you need to enter the withdrawal in bivio prior to giving anyone anything.
You also need to use the same date for the "Stock transfer valuation date" as you use for the "Withdrawal valuation date" to avoid any issues. This is especially critical if you are disbanding.
When you enter the withdrawal, a withdrawal report is generated. It will show you which lots of stock you need to tell your broker to give each person as well as how much cash they are owed.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Can you summarize the differences in receiving stocks as a partial withdrawal vs full withdrawal?
At this point in time, I'm trying to figure out the options to present to the club. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the options and what we would need to do to make sure we are in the right position when we decide to disband.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
Lynne
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:58 PM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
The tax implications of transferring stock in partial withdrawals are not the same as transferring stock in full withdrawals.
For many people, transferring shares in a partial withdrawal will not give them the tax advantages that transferring them in a full withdrawal will.
It depends on their personal tax situation.
You'll also open the potential to get into many of the issues Irina had to deal with if you transfer shares to some people and not others.
Laurie Frederiksen Invest with your friends! www.bivio.com
Thanks all for replying and to Irina for her post about distributing stock when disbanding.
Lisa - I do not know why members prefer lots of little holdings. I would say this was our first conversation and no one has thought about what the impact means.
This is why I figure I better start to learn what will need to be done. It definitely sounds like cashing out is the best option. I'm thinking if members really want stock then maybe we can do partial withdraws first and pay with the stock. I searched and found information on partial withdraws and that doesn't sound that easy either, although it does sound like Bivio will help me with that.
I appreciate any additional advice. Thanks again to all.
Why would everyone want little holdings of many stocks instead of meaningful holdings of a few stocks you really like? It is much easier to follow 50 shares of two stocks than 10 shares of ten stocks, and the tax consequences are exactly the same.
It's possible, but generally not as simple as you think. Unless each of your members has the same percentage ownership, you would be assigning shares by percentage. You won't be able to transfer fractional shares (ok, there are a few brokers that will allow fractional transfers), so you'll probably end up with a few extra shares of some companies.
An easier method would be to sell any losers. Then determine which members want which stocks. Not everyone will want every stock. Determine an equitable method for distributing the stocks that are desired. Sell everything else. Use the cash to finish funding the withdrawals.
We aren't quite ready to disband but the topic came up.
Members would like to divide each stock among the members.
Is this reasonable? We would start to make sure the number
of shares of each stock is divisible by the number of
members. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks!