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Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.

We’re wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.

Thank you!

Lori
My recommendation is to follow Bivio's recommendations and avoid any transactions that would make the Treasurer's job difficult. You can still study these companies as a club but do any purchases as individuals.
Contact Bivio before you buy anything other than US common stocks for their recommendation. Good luck!

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 1:36 AM Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.

We're wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.

Thank you!

Lori


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Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>
> We’re wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Lori
Our club bought Gildan, its Canadian, charges foreign tax, but no problems so far

> On May 4, 2019, at 7:29 AM, devojake via bivio.com <user*13075900001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>>
>> We’re wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lori
>
ADR’s are easily managed with Bivio. It would be enhanced if there was an expense category for ADR fees within the dividend entry choices or when recording expenses in cash accounts.
 
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On May 4, 2019, at 11:22 AM, MARY FRAN NOVAK via bivio.com <user*7094300001@bivio.com> wrote:
 
Our club bought Gildan, its Canadian, charges foreign tax, but no problems so far
 
> On May 4, 2019, at 7:29 AM, devojake via bivio.com <user*13075900001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>>
>> We’re wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lori
>
 
We had some foreign companies and it did make it difficult for the treasurer. Our club decided best to avoid foreign companies as advised by Bivio.

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Roman Geletkanycz via bivio.com <user*17361700001@bivio.com> wrote:
ADR's are easily managed with Bivio. It would be enhanced if there was an expense category for ADR fees within the dividend entry choices or when recording expenses in cash accounts.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 4, 2019, at 11:22 AM, MARY FRAN NOVAK via bivio.com <user*7094300001@bivio.com> wrote:

Our club bought Gildan, its Canadian, charges foreign tax, but no problems so far

> On May 4, 2019, at 7:29 AM, devojake via bivio.com <user*13075900001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>>
>> We're wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Lori
>

I agree completely.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Roman Geletkanycz via bivio.com <user*17361700001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> ADR’s are easily managed with Bivio. It would be enhanced if there was an expense category for ADR fees within the dividend entry choices or when recording expenses in cash accounts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 4, 2019, at 11:22 AM, MARY FRAN NOVAK via bivio.com <user*7094300001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Our club bought Gildan, its Canadian, charges foreign tax, but no problems so far
>
>> On May 4, 2019, at 7:29 AM, devojake via bivio.com <user*13075900001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>>>
>>> We’re wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Lori
>>
>

Many times there are no issues if you invest in a foreign ADR that trades on the US exchanges.

However, there have been quite a few cases where foreign companies have gone through changes or made special distributions that have created problems with clubs. Since the companies are not required to report the US tax implications of the changes, information on what is needed to update club records correctly is often difficult to find or takes longer than normal to come out. This can mean delays in getting club records updated correctly.

A recent example is Volkswagen. They delisted from the US exchanges in August of 2018 and clubs were in limbo as to what exactly was happening to their shares until March of 2019.

That meant their accounting couldn't be accurately adjusted until March of 2019 and any accounting entries requiring accurate valuations such as entering member payments and withdrawals, or producing correct reports and taxes couldn't be done until then.

We just like to make clubs aware of the increased potential for having to deal with issues like this if they invest in foreign companies.

Laurie Frederiksen
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On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 7:39 AM Edwardskm via bivio.com <user*19515700001@bivio.com> wrote:
I agree completely.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Roman Geletkanycz via bivio.com <user*17361700001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> ADR's are easily managed with Bivio. It would be enhanced if there was an expense category for ADR fees within the dividend entry choices or when recording expenses in cash accounts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 4, 2019, at 11:22 AM, MARY FRAN NOVAK via bivio.com <user*7094300001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Our club bought Gildan, its Canadian, charges foreign tax, but no problems so far
>
>> On May 4, 2019, at 7:29 AM, devojake via bivio.com <user*13075900001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, our Club once bought Ali Baba and we had no problems. If you buy a foreign company on the US exchanges it is OK they are called ADR.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On May 3, 2019, at 23:36, Lori MacPherson via bivio.com <user*37573500001@bivio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do any clubs have experience buying foreign company stock traded on the NYSE? Our relatively new club is interested at looking at Alibaba, Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton and some Canadian cannabis companies. However, Bivio has cautioned that foreign companies can create accounting problems when they go through reorganizations, special distributions and stock market listing changes.
>>>
>>> We're wondering how complicated this may get as we do not use a CPA.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Lori
>>
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