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Member made partial withdrawal in 2017
One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017. I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message. How do I figure out how much capital gain she had? Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?
While these questions are usually best answered by submitting a request to support@bivio.com, the answer may be useful to others,

In this case, there is no current capital gain because the amount withdrawn ($4000) is less than the member's adjusted tax basis ($5684.48) at the time of the withdrawal.

Ira Smilovitz, EA

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Philip Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:
One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017. I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message. How do I figure out how much capital gain she had? Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?

Thank you for your response! I checked the numbers on the report when she made the partial withdrawal, and they are correct, and I concluded the same as your response.

I suppose your answer begs another question. Her account balance was north of $8300 at the time of the withdrawal, how can she not have some gain at this time?

I'm sure she'd be happy for me to tell her she had a loss ;)

I will submit a question to support@bivio.com

Thank you again!

From: <club_cafe@bivio.com> on behalf of "ira smilovitz via bivio.com" <user*2883400001@bivio.com>
Reply-To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:28 PM
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Member made partial withdrawal in 2017

In this case, there is no current capital gain because the amount withdrawn ($4000) is less than the member's adjusted tax basis ($5684.48) at the time of the withdrawal.

Ira Smilovitz, EA

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Philip Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017.  I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message.  How do I figure out how much capital gain she had?  Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?

Steve, she is not recording a loss either. Let's say that her contributions equal $5,000. She has received $684.48 in interest, dividends and capital gains. She already paid tax on the $684.48, hence the $5,684.48 adjusted tax basis. She can withdraw up to the adjusted tax basis without paying taxes.

John

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Steve Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

Thank you for your response! I checked the numbers on the report when she made the partial withdrawal, and they are correct, and I concluded the same as your response.

I suppose your answer begs another question. Her account balance was north of $8300 at the time of the withdrawal, how can she not have some gain at this time?

I'm sure she'd be happy for me to tell her she had a loss ;)

I will submit a question to support@bivio.com

Thank you again!

From: <club_cafe@bivio.com> on behalf of "ira smilovitz via bivio.com" <user*2883400001@bivio.com>
Reply-To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:28 PM
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Member made partial withdrawal in 2017

In this case, there is no current capital gain because the amount withdrawn ($4000) is less than the member's adjusted tax basis ($5684.48) at the time of the withdrawal.

Ira Smilovitz, EA

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Philip Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017. I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message. How do I figure out how much capital gain she had? Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?


The difference between her current account value and her adjusted tax basis is her gain in the club. She doesn't pay tax on any of that gain until she withdraws all of her adjusted tax basis.

Ira Smilovitz

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:38 PM, John Rice via bivio.com <user*24380400001@bivio.com> wrote:
Steve, she is not recording a loss either. Let's say that her contributions equal $5,000. She has received $684.48 in interest, dividends and capital gains. She already paid tax on the $684.48, hence the $5,684.48 adjusted tax basis. She can withdraw up to the adjusted tax basis without paying taxes.

John

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Steve Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

Thank you for your response! I checked the numbers on the report when she made the partial withdrawal, and they are correct, and I concluded the same as your response.

I suppose your answer begs another question. Her account balance was north of $8300 at the time of the withdrawal, how can she not have some gain at this time?

I'm sure she'd be happy for me to tell her she had a loss ;)

I will submit a question to support@bivio.com

Thank you again!

From: <club_cafe@bivio.com> on behalf of "ira smilovitz via bivio.com" <user*2883400001@bivio.com>
Reply-To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:28 PM
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Member made partial withdrawal in 2017

In this case, there is no current capital gain because the amount withdrawn ($4000) is less than the member's adjusted tax basis ($5684.48) at the time of the withdrawal.

Ira Smilovitz, EA

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Philip Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017. I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message. How do I figure out how much capital gain she had? Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?



I finally get it now... thank you all for your responses!

From: <club_cafe@bivio.com> on behalf of "John Rice via bivio.com" <user*24380400001@bivio.com>
Reply-To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 2:38 PM
To: The Club Cafe <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Member made partial withdrawal in 2017

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Steve Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

Thank you for your response!  I checked the numbers on the report when she made the partial withdrawal, and they are correct, and I concluded the same as your response.

I suppose your answer begs another question.  Her account balance was north of $8300 at the time of the withdrawal, how can she not have some gain at this time?

I'm sure she'd be happy for me to tell her she had a loss ;)

I will submit a question to support@bivio.com

Thank you again!

 

 

 

From: <club_cafe@bivio.com> on behalf of "ira smilovitz via bivio.com" <user*2883400001@bivio.com>
Reply-To: <
club_cafe@bivio.com>
Date: Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:28 PM
To: <
club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Member made partial withdrawal in 2017

 

 

In this case, there is no current capital gain because the amount withdrawn ($4000) is less than the member's adjusted tax basis ($5684.48) at the time of the withdrawal.

 

Ira Smilovitz, EA

 

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Philip Hayman via bivio.com <user*7289900001@bivio.com> wrote:

One of our members made a partial withdrawal in 2017.  I have the withdrawal report from Bivio and have attached the report to this message.  How do I figure out how much capital gain she had?  Is it the profit number at the bottom of the page?