I agree with option one. It takes about 30 days for paper returns to get in the system. The IRS does not like getting second copies so that often causes problems.
Linda
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From: ira smilovitz <ira.smilovitz@gmail.com>
Date: 04/11/2016 1:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Filing 1065; USPS Certified Mail Tracking Incomplete
I would choose option 1. If you sent the return certified mail, your receipt is proof of filing. If the IRS ever questions it, all you need to do is provide a fresh copy of the return and the mailing receipt.
If you want to choose option 2, I would wait 4-6 weeks. I have no sense of how quickly the IRS processes returns that neither have a balance due nor a refund.
I would not send another copy until/unless the IRS requests it. This is a sure-fire way to create confusion and problems.
Ira Smilovitz
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:28 PM, John W Ranby
<ranby@azbar.org> wrote:
I mailed the 1065 for 2015 to the IRS on April 4th. I did
not specify a return green post card this year (first time)
as the clerk said their on-line tracking was sufficient.
The tracking shows the envelope reached Salt Lake on April
6th and then "departed USPS Destination Facility" on April
6th with expected delivery at final destination (Odgen, UT)
on April 7th.
To date, there are no further details. I suspect the
envelope reached the IRS, and the postal clerk failed to
scan the envelope at delivery. However, technically I don't
have proof positive that the IRS received the 1065.
My question is which of the following options would be best:
1. Assume the envelope reached the IRS, and do nothing more
unless the IRS ever contacts me about a missing return; at
which time I can show the paper trail of timely posting,
supply a replacement copy, and beg to have the late penalty
waived. The "sleeping dog" approach.
2. Assume the envelope reached the IRS, but after waiting
for the 1065 to be processed and in the IRS computer system;
call them myself to verify the 1065 was received. (Hours on
hold waiting for the IRS to answer does not sound
appealing!) The "pro-active" approach.
3. Mail a second copy of the 1065 before April 18th with a
cover letter explaining why a first copy may be in the IRS
system already. My only concern with this approach is I
don't know how the IRS return entering system would treat
the second copy. Would a clerk check for an existing return
before trying to key in the second copy? If not, would the
computer treat the second copy as an amended return? The
"belt and suspenders" approach.
If you were to follow option two, any guess on how long it
would take to be reflected in the IRS computer system?
Thoughts?
Jack Ranby, Treasurer
Grants Partners Investment Club