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Our club left Better Investing last year. We felt that for the same money and better value we could subscribe to Value Line. The SSG was difficult for us and was subjective and historical. With Value Line, although they do not have a club subscription, one member is responsible and distributes the print copy to members. It is working very well. We have our own technical criteria form for purchasing and comparing stocks. Bivio is great assistance. We also have a wealth of information
available on the computer and at our Fidelity research center. The second club I belong to has never been a Better Investing
member. We have broker speakers, book reports and other educational programs. Again we have buy and sell criteria that we feel is a good evaluation tool. Both clubs are making money as we learn!! Jayne Gilbert Make-A-Lot Club Rainbow Investment Club of Houston (RICH) Our public library has Value Line available online for free. Just need a library card. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM, JAYNE GILBERT <jaynegrd@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You should look into the possibility of getting VL through your public library. It is online and free. We don't have to go to the library. Though our members belong to different library systems, we have realized that all public libraries subscribe to Value Line. Deep Shikha, Ph.D. Professor and Chair, Economics
St. Catherine University
651-690-6577 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM, JAYNE GILBERT <jaynegrd@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Our libraries have Value Line for free, but the hours have been cut and we like the print copies. Not all the branch libraries had the print copies. The subscription works
best for us. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:54 PM, Deep Shikha <dshikha@stkate.edu> wrote: You should look into the possibility of getting VL through your public library. It is online and free. We don't have to go to the library. Though our members belong to different library systems, we have realized that all public libraries subscribe to Value Line. Deep Shikha, Ph.D. Professor and Chair, Economics
St. Catherine University
651-690-6577 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM, JAYNE GILBERT <jaynegrd@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Our library makes ValueLine available online so we can print out or save a pdf copy of those reports we want to use. Saves a trip and it's cheaper than making copies. Mike Jones WallStreet Wannabees Bloomington, MN -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 6/19/14, JAYNE GILBERT <jaynegrd@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2014, 3:04 PM Our libraries have Value Line for free, but the hours have been cut and we like the print copies. Not all the branch libraries had the print copies. The subscription works best for us. On Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:54 PM, Deep Shikha <dshikha@stkate.edu> wrote: You should look into the possibility of getting VL through your public library. It is online and free. We don't have to go to the library. Though our members belong to different library systems, we have realized that all public libraries subscribe to Value Line. Deep Shikha, Ph.D.Professor and Chair, Economics St. Catherine University 651-690-6577 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:32 PM, JAYNE GILBERT <jaynegrd@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Our club left Better Investing last year. We felt that for the same money and better value we could subscribe to Value Line. The SSG was difficult for us and was subjective and historical. With Value Line, although they do not have a club subscription, one member is responsible and distributes the print copy to members. It is working very well. We have our own technical criteria form for purchasing and comparing stocks. Bivio is great assistance. We also have a wealth of information available on the computer and at our Fidelity research center. The second club I belong to has never been a Better Investing member. We have broker speakers, book reports and other educational programs. Again we have buy and sell criteria that we feel is a good evaluation tool. Both clubs are making money as we learn!! Jayne GilbertMake-A-Lot ClubRainbow Investment Club of Houston (RICH) Jayne,
Would you be willing to share the evaluation tools each of your respective
clubs use?
On a separate note, I your local library doesn't have an online Value Line
subscription available, The Fairfax County Library allows non-residents to join
the library for a $27 annual fee. That gets you access to Value Line,
Morningstar and S&P, as well as many other business related resources.
Here's the link for those who might be interested: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/accountservices/nonresapp.htm
Thanks,
Nick
Our club left Better
Investing last year. We felt that for the same money and better value we could
subscribe to Value Line. The SSG was difficult for us and was subjective
and historical. With Value Line, although they do not have a club
subscription, one member is responsible and distributes the print copy to
members. It is working very well. We have our own technical criteria
form for purchasing and comparing stocks. Bivio is great assistance.
We also have a wealth of information available on the computer and at our
Fidelity research center.
The second club I belong to
has never been a Better Investing member. We have broker speakers, book
reports and other educational programs. Again we have buy and sell
criteria that we feel is a good evaluation tool. Both clubs are making
money as we learn!!
Jayne Gilbert
Make-A-Lot Club
Rainbow Investment Club of
Houston (RICH) Nick (& others), Have do you like the Fairfax Library? I paid and have used it, but I get kicked off after about 7 minutes, and must re-enter. Frustrating! Am I the only one experiencing this, do others have the same complaint? Thnk you, Roy Chastain From: Nick <telcontar11@verizon.net> To: club_cafe@bivio.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Jayne,
Would you be willing to share the evaluation tools each of your respective
clubs use?
On a separate note, I your local library doesn't have an online Value Line
subscription available, The Fairfax County Library allows non-residents to join
the library for a $27 annual fee. That gets you access to Value Line,
Morningstar and S&P, as well as many other business related resources.
Here's the link for those who might be interested: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/accountservices/nonresapp.htm
Thanks,
Nick
Roy,
I've had that happen at times, especially if I am reading through a link on
another page. However, I don't think it kicks me off the linked item (such as
Value Line), just the Fairfax page.
Nick
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Nick (& others), Have do you like the Fairfax Library? I
paid and have used it, but I get kicked off after about 7 minutes, and must
re-enter. Frustrating! Am I the only one experiencing this, do
others have the same complaint?
Thnk you,
Roy
Chastain
From: Nick <telcontar11@verizon.net> To: club_cafe@bivio.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Jayne,
Would you be willing to share the evaluation tools each of your respective
clubs use?
On a separate note, I your local library doesn't have an online Value Line
subscription available, The Fairfax County Library allows non-residents to join
the library for a $27 annual fee. That gets you access to Value Line,
Morningstar and S&P, as well as many other business related resources.
Here's the link for those who might be interested: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/accountservices/nonresapp.htm
Thanks,
Nick
In my opinion, ValueLine, which I like a lot, is merely objective and historical. Each of us has a section that draws his/her attention, e.g. insider trading, short-term/long-term debt, dividend trends, and most of us agree that VL's five year earnings estimate fits well in an SSG. In other words, they each provide value and can both be used, but you must go beyond page 2 of the SSG to truly benefit from it. Mike Jones WallStreet Wannabees Bloomington, MN From: Nick <telcontar11@verizon.net> To: club_cafe@bivio.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Jayne,
Would you be willing to share the evaluation tools each of your respective
clubs use?
On a separate note, I your local library doesn't have an online Value Line
subscription available, The Fairfax County Library allows non-residents to join
the library for a $27 annual fee. That gets you access to Value Line,
Morningstar and S&P, as well as many other business related resources.
Here's the link for those who might be interested: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/accountservices/nonresapp.htm
Thanks,
Nick
Our club left Better
Investing last year. We felt that for the same money and better value we could
subscribe to Value Line. The SSG was difficult for us and was subjective
and historical. With Value Line, although they do not have a club
subscription, one member is responsible and distributes the print copy to
members. It is working very well. We have our own technical criteria
form for purchasing and comparing stocks. Bivio is great assistance.
We also have a wealth of information available on the computer and at our
Fidelity research center.
The second club I belong to
has never been a Better Investing member. We have broker speakers, book
reports and other educational programs. Again we have buy and sell
criteria that we feel is a good evaluation tool. Both clubs are making
money as we learn!!
Jayne Gilbert
Make-A-Lot Club
Rainbow Investment Club of
Houston (RICH) When our club formed in 2006 we considered BI, but didn't join. Bivio, with its included tax software, was a major reason. Some of us retained BI membership and printed out SSG's; other have dropped BI (including me) because of perceived limited value for the cost. We obtain VL's from the library (15 cents each), scan them in and post on Bivio/Communications/files.
We rely on Manifest Investing (for its forward look), Finviz, Seeking Alpha, Motley Fool, WSJ, Barrons, Forbes. When presenting a new stock we prepare 2- or 3-column side-by-side comparisons of leaders in the sub-sector or major competitors.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Mike Jones via bivio.com <user*21595500001@bivio.com> wrote:
Roy I use the Ffx county library all the time online having been a resident for the last 20 years. I have not been kicked off after 7 mins. I have logged into value line via the Ffx library and found no disconnection issues. Be Well. Irina Sent from my iPad
Nick, Which Value Line subscription does the Fairfax County Library pay for? Is it Value Line Research Center (the one that grants full access) or is it the Value Line Investment Survey? California residents already have free on-line access to the Value Line Investment Survey and to Morningstar. I hunted around for free access to the Value Line
Research Center. I found free access at Sacramento State University but I'm not motivated enough to go to the local library. Linda From: Nick <telcontar11@verizon.net> To: club_cafe@bivio.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Jayne,
Would you be willing to share the evaluation tools each of your respective
clubs use?
On a separate note, I your local library doesn't have an online Value Line
subscription available, The Fairfax County Library allows non-residents to join
the library for a $27 annual fee. That gets you access to Value Line,
Morningstar and S&P, as well as many other business related resources.
Here's the link for those who might be interested: https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/library/accountservices/nonresapp.htm
Thanks,
Nick
Our club left Better
Investing last year. We felt that for the same money and better value we could
subscribe to Value Line. The SSG was difficult for us and was subjective
and historical. With Value Line, although they do not have a club
subscription, one member is responsible and distributes the print copy to
members. It is working very well. We have our own technical criteria
form for purchasing and comparing stocks. Bivio is great assistance.
We also have a wealth of information available on the computer and at our
Fidelity research center.
The second club I belong to
has never been a Better Investing member. We have broker speakers, book
reports and other educational programs. Again we have buy and sell
criteria that we feel is a good evaluation tool. Both clubs are making
money as we learn!!
Jayne Gilbert
Make-A-Lot Club
Rainbow Investment Club of
Houston (RICH) Thanks Irina. (Maybe Fairfax discriminates against those West of the Rockies. <joke>) Roy Chastain "In investing, there is no such thing as a called strike. You don't have to swing at every pitch." --Warren Buffett From: Irina Clements <irina39@verizon.net> To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Roy I use the Ffx county library all the time online having been a resident for the last 20 years. I have not been kicked off after 7 mins. I have logged into value line via the Ffx library and found no disconnection
issues. Be Well. Irina Sent from my iPad
Thanks to all who have provided feedback on BI. I understand the rationale for those who have foregone the membership. That will be one of the options our club discusses. One of the primary benefits to the data service seems to be the ease at which one can compare historical data across a few competitors and sector. Free sources provide useful information for a snapshot in time (today) but not as useful for historical information over time (quarterly, annual). Y-charts is one of the few (semi) free sources I've found.
We too make extensive use of ValueLine (electronically via the library) but not having access to the data electronically is a disadvantage for easily quantitatively comparing companies. It was helpful to hear discussion about some who use stockcentral.com which appears to be cheaper and more direct method to get access to the data I'm interested in. I'll look more into that.
Lastly, one benefit others in my club have stated for the BI membership is it also provides some limited form of liability insurance. This isn't very compelling to me personally but some may value it.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Roy Chastain via bivio.com <user*26255300001@bivio.com> wrote:
Barrett, If you want cheap access to data at home, why not use Morningstar? Nothing is cheaper than free. You can download 10 years of restated income statements, balance sheets, and cash flow statements. From: Barrett <mr.bear.it@gmail.com> To: Bivio Club Cafe <club_cafe@bivio.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Better Investing Thanks to all who have provided feedback on BI. I understand the rationale for those who have foregone the membership. That will be one of the options our club discusses. One of the primary benefits to the data service seems to be the ease at which one can compare historical data across a few competitors
and sector. Free sources provide useful information for a snapshot in time (today) but not as useful for historical information over time (quarterly, annual). Y-charts is one of the few (semi) free sources I've found.
We too make extensive use of ValueLine (electronically via the library) but not having access to the data electronically is a disadvantage for easily quantitatively comparing companies. It was helpful to hear discussion about some who use stockcentral.com which appears to be cheaper and more direct method to get access to the data I'm interested in. I'll look more into that.
Lastly, one benefit others in my club have stated for the BI membership is it also provides some limited form of liability insurance. This isn't very compelling to me personally but some may value it.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Roy Chastain via bivio.com <user*26255300001@bivio.com> wrote:
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