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ACH Confirmation Small Amounts
Laurie:

Our club finished its audit Sunday.  This is the second year we have used the 7 step bivio procedure.  Went very well!  Highly recommended!!  But on to my question:

This year, we had a new member join and establish auto debit transfer from his bank to our broker account.  Part of the verification process is that the bank transfers two small deposits ($0.29 and $0.32).  The treasurer informs the partner of the amounts of the deposits, and then the partner confirms with the bank.  The bank then takes the small accounts back from the account.  Subsequently, the partner auto-debits their monthly contribution.

During the above process, I, as Treasurer, received four transactions, two deposits and two withdrawals.  The deposits were easy, I credited them to the partner.  With the transfer back to the bank, I called them a "partial withdrawal", thus generating a "Withdrawal Report", which I then had to review/explain to our audit committee during our recent audit.

My question is:  Is there an easier way to do this?  It seems a little labyrinthine for $0.61.  I looked up the HELP/support index, but did not see another method. Just askin...

Regards,  Irina
Personally, since the same small amounts were transferred back to the bank within a few days I wouldn't include the deposits or withdrawals at all.

John Rice
From: IRINA CLEMENTS <irina39@verizon.net>
To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:41 AM
Subject: [club_cafe] ACH Confirmation Small Amounts

Laurie:

Our club finished its audit Sunday.  This is the second year we have used the 7 step bivio procedure.  Went very well!  Highly recommended!!  But on to my question:

This year, we had a new member join and establish auto debit transfer from his bank to our broker account.  Part of the verification process is that the bank transfers two small deposits ($0.29 and $0.32).  The treasurer informs the partner of the amounts of the deposits, and then the partner confirms with the bank.  The bank then takes the small accounts back from the account.  Subsequently, the partner auto-debits their monthly contribution.

During the above process, I, as Treasurer, received four transactions, two deposits and two withdrawals.  The deposits were easy, I credited them to the partner.  With the transfer back to the bank, I called them a "partial withdrawal", thus generating a "Withdrawal Report", which I then had to review/explain to our audit committee during our recent audit.

My question is:  Is there an easier way to do this?  It seems a little labyrinthine for $0.61.  I looked up the HELP/support index, but did not see another method. Just askin...

Regards,  Irina


Hi Irina,

Payment and Withdrawal entries for such a small amount is probably overkill. I'd recommend you create a temporary or suspense account on the Accounting>Accounts screen. Show them as a transfer into the brokerage account from that account when they were deposited and a transfer out of your brokerage account back to suspense when they were returned.

BTW, this is the first I've ever heard of those being returned. Interesting.

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:41 PM, IRINA CLEMENTS <irina39@verizon.net> wrote:
Laurie:

Our club finished its audit Sunday. This is the second year we have used the 7 step bivio procedure. Went very well! Highly recommended!! But on to my question:

This year, we had a new member join and establish auto debit transfer from his bank to our broker account. Part of the verification process is that the bank transfers two small deposits ($0.29 and $0.32). The treasurer informs the partner of the amounts of the deposits, and then the partner confirms with the bank. The bank then takes the small accounts back from the account. Subsequently, the partner auto-debits their monthly contribution.

During the above process, I, as Treasurer, received four transactions, two deposits and two withdrawals. The deposits were easy, I credited them to the partner. With the transfer back to the bank, I called them a "partial withdrawal", thus generating a "Withdrawal Report", which I then had to review/explain to our audit committee during our recent audit.

My question is: Is there an easier way to do this? It seems a little labyrinthine for $0.61. I looked up the HELP/support index, but did not see another method. Just askin...

Regards, Irina

Laurie: Did that, worked fine. But actually surprized you
have not heard of before...I have three members doing ACH
transfers from banks or credit unions and all three did
identical transactions, that is, transfer in two small
deposits under $1, and transfer out both small transactions
a few days later. [Transactions in 2012, 2013 and 2014
respectively.] The institutions concerned are two credit
unions, one pretty well known [Pentagon Federal] and Capital
One, a well known bank. Thanks again, Irina
Just a thought.  I happened to check my statement via internet one day and it had an amount on there from a gas station that I had stopped at the day before.  Within a couple of days it had been removed.  I think that is for verification of the account then it is removed.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Re: ACH Confirmation Small Amounts

Hi Irina,

In my experience the small amounts get transferred in, but they don't get transferred out again.

Perhaps they were setting up the ability to do transfers both ways?



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Hi Irina,

In my experience the small amounts get transferred in, but they don't get transferred out again.

Perhaps they were setting up the ability to do transfers both ways?



Laurie Frederiksen
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