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Annual Subscription Reimbursement Question
Hi,

Would someone be so kind as to walk me through the steps I
need to take in order to accurately record the Bivio
subscription expense in Bivio? Basically, our membership
came due and I paid for the membership out of my pocket and
now each member is paying their portion of the fee back to
the club. I just need to know the transactions that should
be entered to show the members depositing money and then a
check being written back to me for reimbursement of the
expense. Hopefully this all makes sense. Thanks in advance
for any help.

Andy
Dear Andy,

Record the member contributions as member payments.

Record the expense using the Expense button on the Accounting>Accounts screen. Put the number of the check you are writing to reimburse yourself in the remarks box on the expense entry form.

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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Butler <abutler911@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Would someone be so kind as to walk me through the steps I
need to take in order to accurately record the Bivio
subscription expense in Bivio? Basically, our membership
came due and I paid for the membership out of my pocket and
now each member is paying their portion of the fee back to
the club. I just need to know the transactions that should
be entered to show the members depositing money and then a
check being written back to me for reimbursement of the
expense. Hopefully this all makes sense. Thanks in advance
for any help.

Andy


Hi Andy,

The club check to reimburse you should be entered as an Expense (Accounting
 > Accounts > Expense) using the Deductible Expense category. This expense
entry, by itself, ensures that each member pays their portion of the
expense.

As for "each member is paying their portion of the fee back to the club",
these should be entered just like the routine monthly investments made by
the members (Accounting > Members > Payments). However, there is no reason
for the members to repay the club for their portion of an expense in this
way (unless the club simply doesn't have enough cash to cover the expense).
An expense entry (above) is all that's needed to ensure that each member
pays their portion of an expense.

It's fine to collect extra cash from members if paying an expense would
reduce the cash held by the club to an undesirably low level. However there
is no need to collect the same amount from each member and no need to
collect something from every member. Again, an expense entry is what
ensures that all members pay their portion of expenses.

-Jim Thomas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Butler" <abutler911@gmail.com>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:03 AM
Subject: [club_cafe] Annual Subscription Reimbursement Question


> Hi,
>
> Would someone be so kind as to walk me through the steps I
> need to take in order to accurately record the Bivio
> subscription expense in Bivio? Basically, our membership
> came due and I paid for the membership out of my pocket and
> now each member is paying their portion of the fee back to
> the club. I just need to know the transactions that should
> be entered to show the members depositing money and then a
> check being written back to me for reimbursement of the
> expense. Hopefully this all makes sense. Thanks in advance
> for any help.
>
> Andy
>
>
Okay - sounds simple enough. I think where I am getting
confused is that our club uses a checking account at a local
CU and we also have our brokerage account. If I am
understanding you correctly, in this case I would record the
expense in Bivio then have the brokerage account cut a check
for the amount of the expense - these two transactions would
reconcile the balances in Bivio and the brokerage, correct?
Then I could just take the check the brokerage sends to the
club, deposit it in the local CU and have the club write me
a check out of the CU account. Would that take care of all
the recording necessary for the deductible expense? I am
probably making this more complicated than necessary.
Dear Andy,

You're right that it doesn't have to be that complicated.

Despite the fact that you have club assets at two financial institutions (your bank and your brokerage), for the purposes of your club accounting, they are all part of a single pool of club assets.

It is fine to record the expense as being paid from the Credit union as long as that is where you have the cash. You can record the member payments as being deposited into whichever account you actually deposit them into.

You should be tracking both accounts in bivio.

Laurie Frederiksen
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Butler wrote:
Okay - sounds simple enough. I think where I am getting
confused is that our club uses a checking account at a local
CU and we also have our brokerage account. If I am
understanding you correctly, in this case I would record the
expense in Bivio then have the brokerage account cut a check
for the amount of the expense - these two transactions would
reconcile the balances in Bivio and the brokerage, correct?
Then I could just take the check the brokerage sends to the
club, deposit it in the local CU and have the club write me
a check out of the CU account. Would that take care of all
the recording necessary for the deductible expense? I am
probably making this more complicated than necessary.

What is meant by "their portion"? Are they each paying the same amount regardless of their holdings? That calls for a slightly different entry, not recommended.. Easier not to do that, but as others have said, just enter the deductible expense as a reimbursement paid by Credit Union check.. Then every member is paying an amount proportional to club holding. Keep it simple.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
Dear Andy,

You're right that it doesn't have to be that complicated.

Despite the fact that you have club assets at two financial institutions (your bank and your brokerage), for the purposes of your club accounting, they are all part of a single pool of club assets.

It is fine to record the expense as being paid from the Credit union as long as that is where you have the cash. You can record the member payments as being deposited into whichever account you actually deposit them into.

You should be tracking both accounts in bivio.


Laurie Frederiksen
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www.bivio.com

Become our Facebook friend! www.facebook.com/bivio
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Andrew Butler wrote:
Okay - sounds simple enough. I think where I am getting
confused is that our club uses a checking account at a local
CU and we also have our brokerage account. If I am
understanding you correctly, in this case I would record the
expense in Bivio then have the brokerage account cut a check
for the amount of the expense - these two transactions would
reconcile the balances in Bivio and the brokerage, correct?
Then I could just take the check the brokerage sends to the
club, deposit it in the local CU and have the club write me
a check out of the CU account. Would that take care of all
the recording necessary for the deductible expense? I am
probably making this more complicated than necessary.




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