I had an interesting day this last Friday which I'd like to share
for your entertainment - I will not call it an investing
experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a pass at the
green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of RESMED, Inc (RMD) a medical manufacture of
CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure) machines - you know,
the ones every overweight, type II diabetic in the US is getting
so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their spouses when
they stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices are
going to be more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer
households - my Dad has two and a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on the position to earn more
income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock had an earnings date
AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded trending up or
sideways for two months. I know enough about technicals to
understand that I don't know enough about technicals.
I was very worried about writing a call when I check the
availability - there were only two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45 and
VERY thin volume. The premiums didn't amount to much so I
watched. I debated on writing a position with a good till cancel
limit, and finally decided to set a price and go on vacation. The
CC was written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead, ground up
coral. I didn't catch it until a couple days later.
9/18/12 STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @ 1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so good so far, but then I went to look at why it had filled
- the price was moving up again! The price stumbled up over 40
and staggered around there like it was setting a new support limit
or something. But I had time, however, to watch this thing and
decide what to do.
Friday, the 19th, Option Expiration Day... My Pass at the Green
Felt.
I decided that I really didn't want to loose my position. I got
up and started breaking rules, put on my green visor and started
rolling the dice.
In the first hour of the Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade
in the sunrise or sunset of the Market, the light is bad and
provided more heat than illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP @ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet
said go away junior, I'm busy), net $351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty
good price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00 today -
I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original
Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise,
a shower, sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?"
The 200+ drop had commenced and all boats go aground when the
tide goes out. I started watching RMD edge down, up, down,
really down and then slowly up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out
the above, I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to
post earnings on the 25th and could have a good day (earnings
have been good to the market except for Friday), 2) that my "all
stock or all cash" scenario was green felt logic. I decided to
unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market -
I don't know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would
turn and show me the right way. RMD was showing a LOT of
resistance to going below 40.00 but also a lot of resistance to
going higher than... oh, 40.15. So, I bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my
Green Felt Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if
the price closed below 40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days.
APR... wow, don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that
my dice game didn't leave me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket
and a long ride home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going
to play in this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of
the game. It was entertaining, educational and by lady luck,
profitable. But luck favors the prepared - those with knowledge
and respect to use it wisely... and sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same
effect as singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the
kids, play
catch with the wife, go out to dinner with dog..
er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
Mark Robertson on
Outstanding post, Malcolm.
Mark Robertson
From: cool_club@bivio.com [mailto:cool_club@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Myles Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012
7:16 PM To: COOL_Club@bivio.com Subject: [cool_club] October
Expiration Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day this last Friday which I'd like to share for your
entertainment - I will not call it an investing experience because it was, as
we say here in Reno, a pass at the green felt... I rolled the dice.
Art Christensen on
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do you
know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the other
acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on the web
gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject: [cool_club] October Expiration
Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day this
last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not call
it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a pass at
the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of RESMED, Inc
(RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure)
machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic in the US is
getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their spouses when they
stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices are going to be
more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households - my Dad has two and
a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on the position to earn
more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock had an earnings date
AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded trending up or sideways for
two months. I know enough about technicals to understand that I don't
know enough about technicals.
I was very worried about writing a call
when I check the availability - there were only two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45
and VERY thin volume. The premiums didn't amount to much so I
watched. I debated on writing a position with a good till cancel limit,
and finally decided to set a price and go on vacation. The CC was
written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead, ground up coral. I
didn't catch it until a couple days later.
9/18/12
STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @ 1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so
good so far, but then I went to look at why it had filled - the price was
moving up again! The price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around
there like it was setting a new support limit or something. But I had
time, however, to watch this thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the
19th, Option Expiration Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided
that I really didn't want to loose my position. I got up and started
breaking rules, put on my green visor and started rolling the dice.
In
the first hour of the Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise
or sunset of the Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP @
1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00 today
- I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a shower,
sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+ drop had
commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I started
watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the above,
I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on the 25th
and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market except for
Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green felt
logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00 but
also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15. So, I
bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR... wow,
don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't leave
me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play in
this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It was
entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck favors
the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely... and
sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the kids,
play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Subject: Re: [cool_club] October
Expiration Experience
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do
you know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the
other acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on
the web gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject: [cool_club] October Expiration
Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day
this last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not
call it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a
pass at the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of
RESMED, Inc (RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway
Pressure) machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic
in the US is getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their
spouses when they stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices
are going to be more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households -
my Dad has two and a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on
the position to earn more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock
had an earnings date AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded
trending up or sideways for two months. I know enough about technicals
to understand that I don't know enough about technicals.
I was very
worried about writing a call when I check the availability - there were only
two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45 and VERY thin volume. The premiums
didn't amount to much so I watched. I debated on writing a position
with a good till cancel limit, and finally decided to set a price and go on
vacation. The CC was written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead,
ground up coral. I didn't catch it until a couple days
later.
9/18/12 STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so good so far, but then I
went to look at why it had filled - the price was moving up again! The
price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around there like it was setting a
new support limit or something. But I had time, however, to watch this
thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the 19th, Option Expiration
Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided that I really didn't want
to loose my position. I got up and started breaking rules, put on my
green visor and started rolling the dice.
In the first hour of the
Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise or sunset of the
Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP
@ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived
logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm
all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00
today - I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a
shower, sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+
drop had commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I
started watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly
up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the
above, I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on
the 25th and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market
except for Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green
felt logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00
but also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15.
So, I bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR...
wow, don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't
leave me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride
home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play in
this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It was
entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck
favors the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely...
and sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the kids,
play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
charles brunell on
Art, I think it means cash secured put.
CHUCK B
From: Art Christensen <artchris@somtel.net> To: cool_club@bivio.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [cool_club] October Expiration Experience
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do you
know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the other
acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on the web
gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject: [cool_club] October Expiration
Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day this
last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not call
it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a pass at
the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of RESMED, Inc
(RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure)
machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic in the US is
getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their spouses when they
stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices are going to be
more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households - my Dad has two and
a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on the position to earn
more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock had an earnings date
AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded trending up or sideways for
two months. I know enough about technicals to understand that I don't
know enough about technicals.
I was very worried about writing a call
when I check the availability - there were only two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45
and VERY thin volume. The premiums didn't amount to much so I
watched. I debated on writing a position with a good till cancel limit,
and finally decided to set a price and go on vacation. The CC was
written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead, ground up coral. I
didn't catch it until a couple days later.
9/18/12
STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @ 1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so
good so far, but then I went to look at why it had filled - the price was
moving up again! The price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around
there like it was setting a new support limit or something. But I had
time, however, to watch this thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the
19th, Option Expiration Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided
that I really didn't want to loose my position. I got up and started
breaking rules, put on my green visor and started rolling the dice.
In
the first hour of the Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise
or sunset of the Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP @
1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00 today
- I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a shower,
sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+ drop had
commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I started
watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the above,
I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on the 25th
and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market except for
Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green felt
logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00 but
also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15. So, I
bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR... wow,
don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't leave
me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play in
this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It was
entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck favors
the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely... and
sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the kids,
play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
Art Christensen on
CSP - Cash Secured Put! That drifted into my
mind about 5 this morning when I was about half awake.
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [cool_club]
October Expiration Experience
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do
you know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the
other acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on
the web gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject: [cool_club] October Expiration
Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day
this last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not
call it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a
pass at the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of
RESMED, Inc (RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway
Pressure) machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic
in the US is getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their
spouses when they stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices
are going to be more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households -
my Dad has two and a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on
the position to earn more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock
had an earnings date AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded
trending up or sideways for two months. I know enough about technicals
to understand that I don't know enough about technicals.
I was very
worried about writing a call when I check the availability - there were only
two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45 and VERY thin volume. The premiums
didn't amount to much so I watched. I debated on writing a position
with a good till cancel limit, and finally decided to set a price and go on
vacation. The CC was written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead,
ground up coral. I didn't catch it until a couple days
later.
9/18/12 STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so good so far, but then I
went to look at why it had filled - the price was moving up again! The
price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around there like it was setting a
new support limit or something. But I had time, however, to watch this
thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the 19th, Option Expiration
Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided that I really didn't want
to loose my position. I got up and started breaking rules, put on my
green visor and started rolling the dice.
In the first hour of the
Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise or sunset of the
Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP
@ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived
logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm
all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00
today - I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a
shower, sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+
drop had commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I
started watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly
up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the
above, I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on
the 25th and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market
except for Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green
felt logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00
but also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15.
So, I bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR...
wow, don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't
leave me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride
home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play in
this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It was
entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck
favors the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely...
and sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the kids,
play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
MMC on
Now I'm a little concerned - not the thought pattern for early morning. My thoughts wrapped around the noises the teenage coyotes were making - swear their voices are cracking when they try to yodel. Actually made me laugh.
But yes, CSP is Cash Secured Put and CC is a Covered Call - my new favorite investment vehicles for adding to my fundamental researched growth and value stock portfolio.
Darn coyotes and their Fall Rush parties - guess I'm up.
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [cool_club]
October Expiration Experience
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do
you know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the
other acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on
the web gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject: [cool_club] October Expiration
Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day
this last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not
call it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a
pass at the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of
RESMED, Inc (RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway
Pressure) machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic
in the US is getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their
spouses when they stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices
are going to be more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households -
my Dad has two and a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on
the position to earn more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock
had an earnings date AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded
trending up or sideways for two months. I know enough about technicals
to understand that I don't know enough about technicals.
I was very
worried about writing a call when I check the availability - there were only
two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45 and VERY thin volume. The premiums
didn't amount to much so I watched. I debated on writing a position
with a good till cancel limit, and finally decided to set a price and go on
vacation. The CC was written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead,
ground up coral. I didn't catch it until a couple days
later.
9/18/12 STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so good so far, but then I
went to look at why it had filled - the price was moving up again! The
price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around there like it was setting a
new support limit or something. But I had time, however, to watch this
thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the 19th, Option Expiration
Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided that I really didn't want
to loose my position. I got up and started breaking rules, put on my
green visor and started rolling the dice.
In the first hour of the
Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise or sunset of the
Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP
@ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived
logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm
all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00
today - I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a
shower, sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+
drop had commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I
started watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly
up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the
above, I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on
the 25th and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market
except for Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green
felt logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00
but also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15.
So, I bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR...
wow, don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't
leave me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride
home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play in
this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It was
entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck
favors the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely...
and sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the kids,
play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
Art Christensen on
Thanks, Chuck, I'm sure your right. My brain
came up with that about 5 am this morning when I should have still been
sleeping but it started free wheeling.
Subject: Re: [cool_club] October
Expiration Experience
Art, I think it means cash secured put.
CHUCK B
From: Art Christensen <artchris@somtel.net> To:cool_club@bivio.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:59
PM Subject: Re: [cool_club]
October Expiration Experience
HI Malcolm
For the dimmer bulbs on the street among us do
you know of a list of Stock Options acronyms, like CSP for example? I know the
other acronyms in this post but this one left me cold and searching for it on
the web gave all kindfs of other crap but couldn't spot this one.
Subject:
[cool_club] October Expiration Experience
Hi All,
I had an interesting day
this last Friday which I'd like to share for your entertainment - I will not
call it an investing experience because it was, as we say here in Reno, a
pass at the green felt... I rolled the dice.
I have 400 shares of
RESMED, Inc (RMD) a medical manufacture of CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway
Pressure) machines - you know, the ones every overweight, type II diabetic
in the US is getting so they don't wake up with headaches and panic their
spouses when they stop breathing at night? Well, I think these devices
are going to be more common than corkscrews in the Baby Boomer households -
my Dad has two and a travel version.
So I looked into writing a CC on
the position to earn more income. Risk was minimal, IMO, as the stock
had an earnings date AFTER the expiration date and the stock had traded
trending up or sideways for two months. I know enough about technicals
to understand that I don't know enough about technicals.
I was very
worried about writing a call when I check the availability - there were only
two calls OOTM... a 40 and 45 and VERY thin volume. The premiums
didn't amount to much so I watched. I debated on writing a position
with a good till cancel limit, and finally decided to set a price and go on
vacation. The CC was written while I was sucking up Vitamin D on dead,
ground up coral. I didn't catch it until a couple days
later.
9/18/12 STO 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC @
1.00 APR 28%, net $389
Okay, so good so far, but then I
went to look at why it had filled - the price was moving up again! The
price stumbled up over 40 and staggered around there like it was setting a
new support limit or something. But I had time, however, to watch this
thing and decide what to do.
Friday, the 19th, Option Expiration
Day... My Pass at the Green Felt.
I decided that I really didn't want
to loose my position. I got up and started breaking rules, put on my
green visor and started rolling the dice.
In the first hour of the
Market Open, I wrote a CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise or sunset of the
Market, the light is bad and provided more heat than
illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP
@ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet said go away junior, I'm busy), net
$351.05
Here was my caffeine deprived
logic:
IF the Stock Closes BELOW 40.00 today - I'm
all in stock
Keep my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Get put to 200 more shares at a pretty good
price
Keep my premium on my CC
IF the Stock Closes ABOVE 40.00
today - I'm all in cash
I get called away on my Original Position
Keep my premium on my CC
Do NOT get put on my CSP
Keep my premium on my CSP
Then I got coffee, breakfast, little exercise, a
shower, sat down to watch the Market and said, "WTF MATE?" The 200+
drop had commenced and all boats go aground when the tide goes out. I
started watching RMD edge down, up, down, really down and then slowly
up.
I wrote out my journal. As I was writing out the
above, I came to the awareness that: 1) RMD was going to post earnings on
the 25th and could have a good day (earnings have been good to the market
except for Friday), 2) that my "all stock or all cash" scenario was green
felt logic. I decided to unwind this pickle.
I waited until the last hour of the Market - I don't
know why, guess it was just hoping that the dice would turn and show me the
right way. RMD was showing a LOT of resistance to going below 40.00
but also a lot of resistance to going higher than... oh, 40.15.
So, I bought back my CC.
10/19/12 BTC 4x 10/20/12 40.00 CC
@ 0.40 APR (uhm, spreadsheet and I really were not on speaking
terms), net -184
This way I effectively cut one leg off my Green Felt
Spread - I could only have 200 shares put to me if the price closed below
40.00 in 30 minutes.
Tick
Tock
Market gets slammed down 2% and RMD closes at....
40.11/share... or as we say here... A Natural Eleven.
I made 389-184+351 = $556 in 19 days. APR...
wow, don't really know if I care... I'm just happy that my dice game didn't
leave me with a lousy t-shirt, a bus ticket and a long ride
home.
I have to be more disciplined if I'm going to play
in this arena and pay attention to the safety rules of the game. It
was entertaining, educational and by lady luck, profitable. But luck
favors the prepared - those with knowledge and respect to use it wisely...
and sometimes me.
Rules:
Don't loose money.
Don't trade above your intellect or education,
preferably below both.
Don't trade across Event Horizons - same effect as
singularities (no one really knows what happens)
Do keep good notes so you can review.
Do keep learning.
add to this list.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - pet the
kids, play catch with the wife,
go out to dinner with dog.. er... tip your waitress.
Malcolm
Malcolm Myles on
Request for Information (RFI):
In October, I gambled and got real lucky on making some money with
my ResMed position and CC and CSP. Looking back on my email from
last month, I noticed that I entered some information incorrectly:
In the first hour of the Market Open, I wrote a
CSP. (Never trade in the sunrise or sunset of the Market, the
light is bad and provided more heat than illumination.)
10/19/12 STO 2x 10/20/12 40.00 CSP @ 1.80 APR (Spreadsheet
said go away junior, I'm busy), net $351.05
The order wasn't for October puts but for NOVEMBER puts! Apologies
for the fat fingers.
So, I've been watching my put order fluctuate with the stock which
has traded sideways for the most part (hi 41.8 lo 39.9). This
weekend I reviewed the trade and was seriously considering buying
back the CSP and writing for two more CSP in December. Would have
netted over $200 and turned around to collect over $250 more.
Today, however, the price of ResMed, on ABSOLUTELY NOT NEWS, dropped
over $1 at the open and is still down below my strike price of
$40/sh. I checked the Options charts and Nov 12 40.00 Calls have an
open interest of 2,948 contracts and the Nov 12 40.00 puts have an
open interest of 3,507 contracts.
ResMed (RMD) shed 3% in
above-average volume, falling below its 50-day moving average. The
maker of medical equipment for sleep disorders has been testing
its 50-day line for the first time since a breakout in August.
It's No. 5 in the latest IBD 50 lineup.
I don't know how to read this. Is the stock getting Cramerized and
the price is going toward the open interest because it can? Is this
a bearish indicator or a bullish indicator - 3,507 want to buy but
2,948 want to sell? I wrote the put because I would like to build
my position, so I really don't mind being put to the stock.